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#76 Jolly Roger

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 05:48 PM

"I don't understand why you're getting a speech and language report for your tribunal appeal, there isn't any speech and language provision in the statement."


That's a stroke of genius. Whoever thought of that one deserves a medal. And a smack upside the head.
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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:37 AM

I have done a course on Autism, I have experience. (pre-school teacher, after a 2 half day courses). = I know everything and you the parent know bugger all.

He hasn't got autism, there's nothing wrong with him. ( teacher changed her mind, once she saw him doing some stuff) and after I told her about Aspergers not Autism.

He doesn't need statementing, he's not bad enough. = he doesn't attack other children or lose his temper.

He doesn't need statementing, he's too academically able but he still gets into trouble for not following what is required by the teacher. = He's not conforming to what I am telling him. (and admits that she has learned some new stuff from the research he had done).

He doesn't listen = he mostly ignores me. (Me-try breaking down what you are asking of him, instead of machine gunning him with too many questions that he isn't processing quick enough).
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:12 PM

A friend got told this about her son,

 

DHT: "he has no problems that concern us ....(cut out other ramblings)..... he only has issues working in groups and understanding others.

Friend: You mentioned there were no concerns but you say he has issues with group work and understanding are you not concerned about this?

DHT: "Not overly concerned this is normal for children to not like group work, also his understanding is poor because he fails to listen or take part in group work"

Friend: "Will you support him to improve his understanding and confidence of working in groups?"

DHT: "we have 30 other children in class to help too, we can't keep helping him to understand basic instructions or boost his confidence"

Friend: "He is currently being investigated for Autism would a diagnosis help get extra help for him"

DHT: "we are giving him all the help that is avaliable."

 

All said about her autistic son while he was there. Once the dx was given she took the paper work to the school showing he has autism and needs help in key areas the school took no interest and fobbed her off that the DHT/SENCO was Autism Specialists and that they would implament a support plan.

 

Another meeting came and this time and the SENCO said

 

SENCO: "He is not Autistic he is just different and lazy"

Friend: "He has a dignosis of Autism here is the letter from CAMHS"

SENCO: "We are supporting him"

 

In all the school continued to BS my friend over this and it has took her to get help from the, that is the tip of the iceberg really for this schools excuses,

 

One included the lines that since he failed to ask for help in class the teacher couldnt support him


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:16 PM

'He's at a good school now so all his issues will go away soon and life will be easier'
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Posted 31 August 2013 - 08:04 AM

Your son doesn't meet the criteria for social intervention to keep him safe = We don't provide any support or advice on keeping your preschool child safe if they have Autism.  

 

We can't offer advice on equipment or strategies to help you = We're scared you might actually ask us to provide some equipment so we won't even engage in a conversation about it.   


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:33 AM

At JR's request.

Taken from SOS!SEN


Useful tips for parents
  • Local authorities often suggest that parents should be grateful for whatever support their child is receiving. Remember you are not fortunate at all, if your child is not getting what they really need in order to make adequate progress.
  • Consider periodically whether your child’s needs have changed and whether the initial assessments are still accurate. Remember that, although statements may be changed by local authorities, the appendices upon which they were originally based may be hopelessly out of date.
  • If you have any doubts about your child’s continuing needs or provision for them, seek advice at once.
  • Keep copies of all correspondence sent and received.
  • Make detailed written notes of all conversations (including telephone ones) with local authority officers and other interested persons, and confirm in writing what has been agreed.
  • Do not go to meetings alone. Take a partner or friend to make notes.
  • Remember that parents and children have rights under the Data Protection Act 1998 to receive from a school and/or local authority a full set of records concerning their children - including copies of emails, notes of phone calls and meetings, etc. It costs £10 and although there may be up to a 40-day wait it’s worth it. Write to the head teacher and/or the council’s chief executive in the first instance, referring to the Act. The information can be invaluable for someone appealing at Tribunal. It is amazing what can be unearthed and what you might discover is missing!
  • When considering a school recommended by your local authority, ask whether it is designated and set up to meet your child’s particular special needs. You may be told that special training programmes are under way. If so, check carefully whether and what they are. You may also be told that the school is a “Centre of Excellence”. Is it? If not, can your child wait for it to become one?
  • Above all, be persistent. Don’t take “no” for an answer. And watch out for “weasel words” from local authorities. They are often an attempt to get round the legal position or SEN Code of Practice. Beware of any or all of the following:
    • Well, the legislation/the courts/the Code of Practice are all very well, but here in Nutshire we have our own way of doing things.
    • That’s nothing to do with us - it’s up to the health authority/the school.
    • We don’t put into the statement what the school is going to provide.
    • There’s no point in putting it in Part 3 because the NHS can provide it under Part 6.
    • We’ve never done/heard/seen that before.
    • That can be looked at during the annual review.
    • We need to keep some flexibility.
    • That can be included in your child’s IEP.
    • You know, you really are rather fortunate to get so much help. You wouldn’t get that amount in another local authority.
    • That would be a very suitable school for your child.
    • We must tell you about all the exciting work and training programmes in place in the school.
    • With all the investment we are making, it will become a ‘Centre of Excellence’


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:41 PM

You're an angel.
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Posted 03 February 2014 - 05:16 PM

CAMHS after diagnosis. "Well of course, we deal with children with diseases of the mind and your son doesn't have that. do you understand?" - at a loss to provide translation, but think he hoped we would just go away quietly!

SENCO. "We know all the children in our school who are autistic"- there's no way your son is getting a ounce of support from me as he doesn't fit into my poor understanding of what autism is about, and then I'd have to admit I got it wrong for the last 4 years.

same SENCO. "What a rude little boy you are" [to ds when he was asked to go to the library which had been renamed the IT suite, and asked for it to be called the IT suite] - I'm so ignorant and incompetent and quite frankly you've embarrassed me

CT. Your son is too informed about dyslexia" - I don't really care that he's struggling, and he's getting on my nerves. please make him go away.



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Posted 07 April 2014 - 04:09 PM

The Paediatrician:

"He's too chatty to be on the Autism Spectrum" followed by "His speech may be affecting his ability to talk to children"

"His cognitive development is advanced for his age so he can't possibly be on the Autism Spectrum"

 

"R runs up and down the length of the house for anything from 5 mins to an hour and you can't disturb him especially not touch him or you get a violent response" (his stimming exercise).

Paed: "that's normal for boys"

 

"Any unusual interests"

"He can name all the parts of a tractor including the parts of the engine; all attachments and their uses" (he's 3 years old)

"That's normal for boys"???

 

"He doesn't fit the profile for a child on the Autism Spectrum he's just very anxious around other children, but I'm going to refer him to the Autism Unit." = Yes you're right he needs a proper assessment but I want to have diagnosed it because you're his mum so you don't know anything.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:45 AM

....but I want to have diagnosed it because you're his mum so you don't know anything.


Yes, I've seen that attitude a few times - but I always thought head teachers had a monopoly on it.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 05:52 PM

From today" I can assure you the TA we propose for Lucy is highly knowledgable with regards to autism, she has completed the in house training with Autism Outreach" That would be the 1 hour session that covers the whole spectrum from diagnosis to statementing and proclaims all difficulties could be solved with rigid rules, a visual timetable and a time out card.

 

Me  "So has she attended or has plans to attend any courses that give more comprehensive insight into ASD and training in recognised support strategies?" No but she's worked in school with others with ASD. Great! so she has worked with other children with ASD without knowledge and training and I'm supposed to be reassured. 


Oh and a little quote from the LA when I asked them to send me information regarding Home education "

"In your research you may come across some negative comments about councils in general. I do hope you would make up your own mind."  :hysterical:

 

Not really bullshit but it made me laugh and I practised great self restraint in not responding I thought anyway


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Posted 09 May 2014 - 07:40 PM

"In your research you may come across some negative comments about councils in general. I do hope you would make up your own mind."


I've worked with councils for twenty years, and one or two of the comments I've made about them haven't been negative at all.
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 12:06 AM

LEA, "we will inform you of the outcome of the investigation" = we have no intention of telling you anything at all.

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Posted 23 May 2014 - 06:22 AM

LEA, "we will inform you of the outcome of the investigation" = we have no intention of telling you anything at all.

This made me chuckle.  So many times we are told something will be done when there is no intention of doing it.  I've lost count now, but I know that the number rises every time we are told anything.





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