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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:37 PM

browsing some of the topics on the forums I am noticing a recurrent theme - difficulty in coping with school and the anxiety this brings. This is a subject close to my heart. My 13 year old daughter (ADD/Aspie mix) is out of school after a nervous breakdown brought on by years of trying to fit in. Diagnosed as depressed and now on fluoxetine she is starting to improve a little but I am totally dreading what will happen when she has to return to school. The whole emphasis of the authorities seems to be on getting her back to school so she can be properly educated and "socialised". To be perfectly honest I do not think she will ever relax in a school setting no matter what tweaks the school put in to show they are aspie friendly. Sorry to sound bitter but despite the fact that the school is proud of its 6 hours training in ASD (whoop-e-doo) my eldest boy overheard teachers talking about how rude his little sister was (on the basis of a monosylibic conversation she had with a teacher on the telephone AFTER she had had her breakdown). Socially awkward ADD/ASD teen who is having mental health issues? What did they expect? I did get a written apology from the school but my confidence in how much they even try to understand vulnerable children like her has been shaken.

 

If any of you have examples of LEAs working with online school providers to educate children like my daughter at home I would be very grateful. I am campaigning here in NI to get our education boards to open up their virtual system (Elluminate) to children like mine who are at home. I am afraid one of our main teaching unions, our Boards and schools are proving very resistant to the idea. They quote inclusion (which they interpret as being in the school building) and the need for "Socialisation" among their reasons. I despair! help!

 


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:33 AM

Do not have any experience of online schools I'm afraid but do have lots of sympathy! My daughter dropped out of school at the same age and was diagnosed with depression. Like your daughter, years of trying to socialise finally took their toll. Schools don't seem to realise that this need for socialisation is one of the hardest things for someone with Asperger's to do. It's no wonder they get depressed when they try so hard to fit in and constantly fail.

 

My daughter has been helped by going to a school where they really understand her but she still struggles socially and is still very anxious but her depression is a lot better. Not sure what I would have done if she hadn't got into this school. I was looking at home schooling and joining home school groups for the socialisation. We also have special social groups in our area for people with Aspergers, that meet once a week so that would have helped with socialisation.

 

Hope someone comes along with more practical advice but sending big hugs and lots of sympathyxx



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:22 AM

I assume you have seen  EOTAS http://www.deni.gov....nts-newpage.htm



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:46 AM

thank you for your responses JulieC and caci.

 

Julie - in one sense it helps to know you are not alone, in another you think - oh no not another poor child. I am glad your girl found a more suitable school. None spring to mind in my Board - & I am reluctant to change schools for another try in case the whole saga starts again. I have my doubts that things would be any better. My daughter is completely against trying again elsewhere - she does not want to go back at all, but if she has to it is a case of "better the devil you know".

 

Yes caci I have read EOTAS, I know I have the right to educate my child at home, but the options here are home school her myself or pay for one of the online schools. I am not really in a position to do either. I am self aware enough to know that I haven't the organisational skills or knowledge to teach my daughter properly - she is very intelligent. As for the online schools - great as many are I cannot afford them. I have 5 children (all of whom have disabilities) and gave up full time work 5 years ago after my ASD son (then aged 12) got so stressed he tried to hang himself.  I do now work part time in a different job which is not nearly so well paid, but it is very flexible and 5 minutes down the road so it suits very well. My husband does work but he is not a high earner & there is no cash to spare. That is why I am interested in learning if there are any cases on mainland GB (I am Northern Ireland) where LEAs work with online school providers to cater for children who are out of school.  



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:30 PM

There was a post about NOT school fairly recently, but I can't find it.  This link  http://www.cornwall....aspx?page=27812 outlines the theory.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:13 PM

thankyou imperfect parent - off to have a browse at this!



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 04:35 PM

EOTAS is not the same as Home education.

 

I think the NOT SCHOOL scheme is the same sort of thing (infact, I wonder if it is the same, and different areas use different words ?)

 

With both schemes, the LEA remain responsible for the child's education, and the child has to be registered at a school.

 

As far as I know, the funding has to be found from the school's budget, which may be why schools are reluctant to agree, and if they do, they seem to use it as a short term solution with a view to getting the child into school ASAP.



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Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:30 PM

Not school is what my son will hopefully be trying in September ,if the school agree to fund it, remember they wanted to take him off roll. Have not heard anything yet. Can't do links but it was my post in See me not my illness which I did recently, it is the one titled update.

Edited by goinginsane, 24 August 2013 - 09:32 PM.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 12:01 PM

Not school is what my son will hopefully be trying in September ,if the school agree to fund it, remember they wanted to take him off roll. Have not heard anything yet. Can't do links but it was my post in See me not my illness which I did recently, it is the one titled update.

That will be why it doesn't come up on the search GIS.

 

Have you not heard what is happening yet?  It's only just over a week to the beginning of term.



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:58 PM

Nothing IP.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:33 PM

Have they heard of planning to succeed?

 

Such a shame that something which could be very good is so poorly planned.  I hope they give you enough info and time to prepare before it starts.



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Posted 25 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

I doubt that the high school have even agreed yet, we had the Tac two days before the end of term . Nothing is going right at the moment, will start a new thread in the next few days to let you all know how it is all going with shadow.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:45 AM

Sorry to hear that GIS.

 

We've had a generally successful holiday, but mainly because we have allowed the boys a lot of choice.  Now we have to ease them back into having to do more things.  It starts tomorrow with DS1's dentist appointment which I am not looking forward to as his lovely dentist has chosen not t return after maternity leave and her replacement was so bad with DS 2 that he has been taken on by the senior  dentist who only does private work normally.

 

The next challenge is for DS2 to sleep in his bed as he has camped in the garden most of the summer.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:44 AM

Sorry to hear that GIS.
 
We've had a generally successful holiday, but mainly because we have allowed the boys a lot of choice.  Now we have to ease them back into having to do more things.  It starts tomorrow with DS1's dentist appointment which I am not looking forward to as his lovely dentist has chosen not t return after maternity leave and her replacement was so bad with DS 2 that he has been taken on by the senior  dentist who only does private work normally.
 
The next challenge is for DS2 to sleep in his bed as he has camped in the garden most of the summer.


Good luck with the dentist, don't envy you there and good luck for back to school.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:36 AM

had a look at the notschool stuff - it looks really interesting. I will use it to put more pressure on the Boards here in NI to do more for our out of school children. 





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